tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post7061726658008395702..comments2023-10-09T05:28:35.705-07:00Comments on Creekside: Taser needs more "jump science"Alisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09811694143714068436noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post-13852200167892913022009-11-14T08:13:11.781-08:002009-11-14T08:13:11.781-08:00Please Google the taser's "Curious Tempor...Please Google the taser's "Curious Temporal Asymmetry".<br /><br />See also: http://curiousasymmetry.blogspot.com/Excited-Delirium.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12842600862614803819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post-30451801149641234812009-10-15T12:26:56.982-07:002009-10-15T12:26:56.982-07:00sagesource--
Ya.
Especially given that this late...sagesource--<br /><br />Ya.<br /><br />Especially given that this latest gambit makes the Horsemen's original 'Stapler' ruse look like the Dallas Cowboy's Doomsday Defense, circa, 1974.<br /><br />.RossKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07677239332112652522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post-81813924186586267162009-10-15T06:51:48.838-07:002009-10-15T06:51:48.838-07:00Welcome to the Chewbacca Defense!
They don't ...Welcome to the Chewbacca Defense!<br /><br />They don't even think you're worth the effort of a well-crafted lie these days.sagesourcenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post-10133525894718544632009-10-15T02:33:18.359-07:002009-10-15T02:33:18.359-07:00Alison: they are engaging in pure absurdity. Or me...Alison: they are engaging in pure absurdity. Or merely defending themselves. The TASER™ does not work for the purpose that it was intended for which is based on a good idea - non-lethal response to possible dangerous situation that cops might face on the job. Yelling or making loud noises could result in someone having a heart attack. The desire to deal with a problem without actually killing someone while putting on the mask of civilization results in absurdity but the people involved still need to make a living.Zeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13200092630775959717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post-76507517081979918432009-10-15T02:15:06.758-07:002009-10-15T02:15:06.758-07:00Jump science or snort cocaine science? We might be...Jump science or snort cocaine science? We might be inching towards a new platitude of of TASER™ science. I have from 40 years of reflection would like to define science as 'problem solving' an ability that almost all of us humans have and the performance of Taser International is anti-science, which they have hired lawyers to perform a demonstration for us. They can be applauded for their effort in display for the public of their common desire to educate the public and we can rejoice and relish in this abundance of wisdom.Zeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13200092630775959717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post-46995967587382611312009-10-14T23:30:40.296-07:002009-10-14T23:30:40.296-07:00Zee : Their argument is that death is caused by an...Zee : Their argument is that death is caused by an underlying medical condition and an officer deploying the TASER™ is not responsible for not knowing about that underlying medical condition.<br />From a Taser manual via <a href="http://www.law.stanford.edu/program/centers/scjc/library/tasers.pdf" rel="nofollow">Stanford University</a> :<br />Taser International : Instructor and User Warnings, Risks :<br /><br /><i>"When practicable, avoid prolonged or continuous exposure(s) to the TASER device electrical discharge. The stress and exertion of extensive repeated, prolonged, or continuous application(s) of the TASER device may contribute to cumulative exhaustion, stress, and associated medical risk(s). Severe exhaustion and/or over-exertion from physical struggle, drug intoxication, use of restraint devices, etc. may result in serious injury or death."</i><br /><br />If this makes no sense to you, see "Guns don't kill people; bullets kill people." <br /><br />Thwap : Yeah.<br /><br />Bob : Thanks, ;-x, but I think the blog Excited Delirium made a similar argument first in comments in a US paper somewhere but I can't find it.<br /><br />Ross : The AMA is as nothing to them apparently, never mind Paul Kennedy.<br />Also looks like a federal provincial turf war is going to result in the "a few bad apples" defence : <br />"Ottawa has vigorously argued the provincially-mandated inquiry doesn't have the jurisdiction to criticize federal bodies such as the RCMP and border services.<br /><br />But in its final submission, the federal government also said "individual findings of misconduct can be made by a provincial commission of inquiry in respect of actions by federal public servants in British Columbia, so long as they do not relate to the administration and management of federal institutions."Alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09811694143714068436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post-21251609209107595432009-10-14T11:55:50.932-07:002009-10-14T11:55:50.932-07:00Of course.
Apparently it is well documented that...Of course. <br /><br />Apparently it is well documented that jolts of 'Jump' science were used to keep David Lee Roth going all through the not so Go-Go '90's.<br /><br />All snark aside, this codswallop of attacking the legitimate biomedical concerns as junk is straight out of the Church of the Sacred Bleeding Atwater/Ailes/Rovians (eg. All Evil, No Banality Required)RossKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07677239332112652522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post-64944681098046053632009-10-14T10:40:56.594-07:002009-10-14T10:40:56.594-07:00produce the RCMP body of evidence that just as man...<i>produce the RCMP body of evidence that just as many delirious people drop dead before they are tasered as after</i><br /><br />Leave it to the Lady Alison to get to the basics of the argument.<br /><br />Excellent . . . .West End Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899808253017644309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post-12789421145334205292009-10-14T09:28:12.653-07:002009-10-14T09:28:12.653-07:00The Winipeg Sun has fixed their typo now.
Still-ju...The Winipeg Sun has fixed their typo now.<br />Still-jump science works better when you're talking electricity.<br /><br />IanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post-13246848085532865302009-10-14T08:56:57.510-07:002009-10-14T08:56:57.510-07:00I'm surprised Taser International has gotten a...I'm surprised Taser International has gotten away with that line of obvious bullshit for so long.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17909993.post-89792938385515921862009-10-14T08:22:46.280-07:002009-10-14T08:22:46.280-07:00Are they saying that there is no evidence showing ...Are they saying that there is no evidence showing that their TASER™ has any effect or only sometimes has no effect or sometimes it can make people fall on the floor but they might have stumbled and fell from fear or whatever?Zeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13200092630775959717noreply@blogger.com